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Lion Demon
Number of posts : 15 Age : 28 Trainer Type : A Hiphop/RnB pokemon breeder proffesional who is muslim Friend Code D/P : 1762 4645 5148 Warning : Registration date : 2009-03-07
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Wed 27 May 2009, 12:45 pm | |
| Weavile@Focus sash Hasty (Speed+ Defense-) Pressure EVs: 255Atk 255Speed
Fake out Counter Ice punch Night slash
Fake out to weaken/break rare sash. And Counter if CC scares you Ice punch/Night slash are means of stab. | |
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SQUISHY
Number of posts : 81 Age : 35 Location : Boston Trainer Type : Whatsit Tuya Friend Code D/P : 3008 2196 5554 Friend Code Platinum : 1290 6176 1532 My Pokemon Team :
Warning : Registration date : 2009-05-06
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Wed 27 May 2009, 2:22 pm | |
| - Lion Demon wrote:
- [url=mailto://Weavile@Focus sash]Weavile@Focus sash[/url]
Hasty (Speed+ Defense-) Pressure EVs: 255Atk 255Speed Fake out Counter Ice punch Night slash Fake out to weaken/break rare sash. And Counter if CC scares you Ice punch/Night slash are means of stab. Lucario @ Choice Specs Inner Focus 4 hp/252 Special attack/ 252 speed Vacuum wave Aura sphere Shadow Ball HP Ice Inner focus blocks flinching, making fake out just a non-stabed base 40 not very effective move. Vacuum wave is priority, so if you are sash less, it's an instant kill, and if you still do have your sash, lucario will take NVE damage from with your STABs, Ice and dark, being x4 resistant to the latter. Finally, Vacuum wave is a special move, rendering Counter useless. | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 7:13 am | |
| Time to counter a specscario...although it would help if I knew which nature you were running on it =/ Blissey @ Leftovers Ability: Natural Cure Calm nature 252 Sp Def, 252 Def, 6 HP - ThunderWave - Seismic Toss - SoftBoiled - Protect Damage calculations from a modest specscarios aura sphere against this particular blissey.. Raw damage: | 258 | 278 | 306 | Percentages: | 39.57% | 42.64% | 46.93% | |
| Normal: | Leftovers: | Sandstorm | Stealth Rock | Stealth Rock + Leftovers | OHKO: | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 0.00% | 2HKO: | 0.00% | 0.00% | 25.71% | 25.71% | 0.07% | As you can see, getting a 2HKO requires an insane amount of dumb luck and stealth rock. But here's where the fun part comes in. Blissey sponges the first aura sphere, and paralyzes lucario, so she is suddenly faster. Then she alternates between seismic tossing, softboiling, and protecting to either stall you OUT of aura spheres, or eventually KO with seismic toss. Protect turns aura sphere into a 3HKO guaranteed, and perhaps if i'm lucky a 4HKO. Now here comes somebody posting something with CC, superpower, or focus punch/dynamic punch to counter blissey =| | |
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BlackPhazeDragon
Number of posts : 21 Age : 31 Trainer Type : Dragon,Battler,Somewhat Helper Friend Code D/P : 4210-2618-4755 My Pokemon Team : Warning : Registration date : 2008-11-16
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 8:22 am | |
| Infernape @ Lum Beryy Ability: Blaze Adamant nature 252 Atk, 252 Spe, 6 HP - Close Combat - Flare Blitz - Taunt - Stone Edge Lum berry to block Paralysis CC is Standard Taunt to stop blissey healing/protecting | |
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SQUISHY
Number of posts : 81 Age : 35 Location : Boston Trainer Type : Whatsit Tuya Friend Code D/P : 3008 2196 5554 Friend Code Platinum : 1290 6176 1532 My Pokemon Team :
Warning : Registration date : 2009-05-06
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 2:18 pm | |
| - BlackPhazeDragon wrote:
- Infernape @ Lum Beryy
Ability: Blaze Adamant nature 252 Atk, 252 Spe, 6 HP - Close Combat - Flare Blitz - Taunt - Stone Edge Lum berry to block Paralysis CC is Standard Taunt to stop blissey healing/protecting Latias @ Choice Specs Levitate Timid 252 Special attack 252 speed 4 hp ~Surf Draco Meteor Thunderbolt Trick Latias can come in on Flare Blitz on Close combat with ease, and since it probably wouldn't be likely that it would waste an opportunity to cripple a wall with trick on infernape, it can com in on Taunt, too. It then proceeds to outspeed and and One Hit KO with Surf. So... Who's gonna post the CB weavile or Scarf Heracross? | |
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Net-Cracker
Number of posts : 633 Age : 33 Trainer Type : Zangoose Trainer My Pokemon Team : Warning : Registration date : 2008-05-31
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 2:50 pm | |
| Rattata lv 1 Adamant @ Focus Sash Endeavor Quick attack EVs 252 atk 252 speed | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 3:03 pm | |
| Duskull @ Leftovers Ability: Levitate Impish nature 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Def - Will-o-Wisp - Night Shade - Pain Split - Payback Figure I might as well counter an LC with my favorite LC =P Duskull is immune to both of your moves. Has relatively good tanking capabilities for it's tier. WoW cripples physical attackers that will be brought in as soon as you switch rattata out. Pain split lets it keep it's HP up to a passable level. Payback is to ensure it doesn't get walled by normal types. And finally night shade provide a constant steady stream of damage. | |
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Net-Cracker
Number of posts : 633 Age : 33 Trainer Type : Zangoose Trainer My Pokemon Team : Warning : Registration date : 2008-05-31
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 3:05 pm | |
| Abra Timid nature with Choice Specs SHADOWBALL/DARKPULSE Hidden Power Ice Energyball Psychic 252 sp atk 252 speed | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 3:14 pm | |
| Electabuzz @ Expert Belt Ability: Static Mild nature 252 Sp atk, 244 Spe, 12 Atk - Thunderbolt - HP-Grass - Ice Punch - Signal Beam With those EV's, electabuzz outspeeds abra by one point. Expert Belt Ebuzz's Signal Beam vs. Abra: |
Raw damage: | 230 | 249 | 273 | Percentages: | 120.42% | 130.37% | 142.93% | The other moves are to prevent the next person from bringing some particular threats in easily. Tbolt STAB, Ice Punch gives boltbeam, HP-Grass hits quagsire/gastrodon blah blah blah. | |
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Net-Cracker
Number of posts : 633 Age : 33 Trainer Type : Zangoose Trainer My Pokemon Team : Warning : Registration date : 2008-05-31
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 3:19 pm | |
| Magmar Modest @ Choice Scarf Overheat Focus Blast Hidden Power Ice Psychic/Flamethrower 252 sp atk 252 speed 6 hp | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 3:23 pm | |
| *pushes away bad memories* Flygon @ Choice Scarf Ability: Levitate Lonely nature 252 Atk, 168 Spe, 90 Sp Atk - Outrage - Earthquake - Fire Blast - U-Turn EQ is a guaranteed OHKO on your magmar, flygon also happens to outspeed your scarfed magmar, leaving me completely capable of sweeping. Outrage prevents some pokemon from coming into the battlefield, otherwise they have to take a 120 base power STAB dragon move coming off 328 Attack stat. Fire Blast prevents skarm, forretress, or scizor as well as bronzong and jirachi from coming in. U-Turn lets me scout a switch, do some damage, and bring somebody in safely. | |
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Net-Cracker
Number of posts : 633 Age : 33 Trainer Type : Zangoose Trainer My Pokemon Team : Warning : Registration date : 2008-05-31
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 06 Jun 2009, 3:30 pm | |
| Abamsnow Mild @ Focus Sash @ Snow Warning Blizzard Energyball Wood Hammer Ice Shard 252 Sp Atk, 252 atk | |
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Lion Demon
Number of posts : 15 Age : 28 Trainer Type : A Hiphop/RnB pokemon breeder proffesional who is muslim Friend Code D/P : 1762 4645 5148 Warning : Registration date : 2009-03-07
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 18 Jul 2009, 1:00 pm | |
| Blaziken @ Life orb Adamant (Atk+ Spatk-) Blaze EVs: 252 Atk 252Speed 6HP
Flare Blitz/Blaze kick/Fire punch Thunderpunch/Rock slide/Stone edge Superpower/Sky uppercut/Brick break Agility
If it switches Agility to outspeed Other fast sweepers approaching. A Physical Fire/Fighting move for stab. T-Punch for Water types Rock slide/Stone edge for flying types. | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 18 Jul 2009, 2:34 pm | |
| Quagsire @ Leftovers Ability: Water Absorb Relaxed nature 252 Def, 212 HP, 44 Atk - Earthquake - Ice Beam - Yawn - Surf Pretty self explanatory. Resists fire attacks. Resists rock attacks. Immunity to Thunderpunch. Good Defense for fighting attacks. Earthquake lets it hit infernape and anything weak to ground hard. Surf does likewise, but from the opposite spectrum. Ice Beam for fliers and such. Yawn to force switches | |
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Lion Demon
Number of posts : 15 Age : 28 Trainer Type : A Hiphop/RnB pokemon breeder proffesional who is muslim Friend Code D/P : 1762 4645 5148 Warning : Registration date : 2009-03-07
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sun 19 Jul 2009, 12:34 pm | |
| Gengar@Choice specs Timid (Speed+ attack-) levitate EVs: 252Atk 252Speed 6HP
Shadow ball Energy ball Focus blast Trick
Simple really Energy ball for the kill, Trick whilst it yawns and the rest of the attacks are for other pokemon. | |
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Hallonskalle
Number of posts : 3 Age : 33 Trainer Type : Random? Friend Code D/P : 0775 0286 6487 Friend Code Platinum : - My Pokemon Team : - Warning : Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 25 Jul 2009, 3:38 pm | |
| Weavile@choice band/life orb Jolly Pressure EV's 252atk, 252 speed 6hp
Pursuit Brick break Night slash Ice shard
Just Night slash for the kill, assuming he stays in. Pursuit will ohko on the switch | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 25 Jul 2009, 3:48 pm | |
| Hariyama @ Leftovers Ability: Thick Fat Impish nature 84 HP, 172 Atk, 252 Def - Rest - Sleep Talk - Force Palm - PayBack RestTalk hariyama (Much like RestTalk machamp) makes an incredible counter to weavile. HP EV's give it a good HP threshold at 450. Defense was maximized for best walling capabilities. The rest were thrown into Attack. RestTalk guards from status. Force Palm is STAB with a para chance and weavile KO'ing ability. Payback with Force Palm provides nearly unresisted type coverage. Resistant to your dark and ice attacks, and takes pitiful damage from brick break. | |
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Hallonskalle
Number of posts : 3 Age : 33 Trainer Type : Random? Friend Code D/P : 0775 0286 6487 Friend Code Platinum : - My Pokemon Team : - Warning : Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 25 Jul 2009, 4:14 pm | |
| Aerodactyl@power herb? (the thing that gets rid of 1 turn of charging stuff) Pressure Adamant 252 atk, 158 def, 100 speed
Sky attack Stone edge Earthquake Ice fang
Well, uh^^ Sky attack will not need charging and will do 429-504 dmg. Which isn't a certain OHKO given your HP EV's. But with my EV's in defence I'm pretty confident about surviving a force palm and finish you off with EQ | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 25 Jul 2009, 7:16 pm | |
| Bronzong @ Leftovers Ability: Levitate Relaxed nature 252 HP, 172 Def, 86 Atk - Gyro Ball - Stealth Rock - Explosion - Hypnosis Bronzong takes pitiful damage from all of your attacks. HP was maximized due to his rather low HP stat. Enough EV's were placed into attack to OHKO jolly aerodactyl with Gyro Ball. But due to your's running Adamant, I don't know if I could OHKO, but i'm still strong enough to stay around for the 2HKO. Stealth Rock lets it lay down the rocks, but if they've already been placed on the field, than either screen could go in it's place. Explosion makes whatever you bring in after aero goes down pretty difficult to get in. Hypnosis is in the final slot as a way to shut down whatever switch in you dare try to bring in. | |
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Hallonskalle
Number of posts : 3 Age : 33 Trainer Type : Random? Friend Code D/P : 0775 0286 6487 Friend Code Platinum : - My Pokemon Team : - Warning : Registration date : 2009-07-25
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sun 26 Jul 2009, 7:36 am | |
| Typhlosion@choice scarf Blaze Rash 144 Atk, 252 SpA, 112 Spe
Eruption Dynamicpunch Overheat Earthquake
A "standard" choice scarf typhlosion, except I chose dynamicpunch over focus punch. Mainly because its more badass, and I remember how i used to pwn with it on pkmn silver^^. Eruption will make quick work of bronzong. Though if rocks are up I could go for overheat | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sun 26 Jul 2009, 10:01 am | |
| Salamence @ Life Orb Ability: Intimidate Mild nature 84 Atk, 216 Sp Atk, 208 Spe - Draco Meteor - Earthquake - Fire Blast - Outrage Mixmence. Currently the most uncounterable pokemon in the entire metagame. The true fear induced by this set is the dual STAB. It resists all of your typhlosions attacks. Can OHKO with Earthquake. Fire Blast and EQ keep every single steel type away from this. Once you bring in something more threatening, it will unleash one of it's two STAB attacks. Any physical walls that may consider withstanding an outrage, are forced to gorge on one massively overpowered draco meteor. Any special walls hoping to sponge a draco meteor, are forced to come face to face with one outrageous dragons outrage. | |
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Monkster
Number of posts : 104 Age : 35 Trainer Type : Casual Friend Code D/P : Ask me Friend Code Platinum : Ask me My Pokemon Team : Warning : Registration date : 2009-02-24
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sun 26 Jul 2009, 2:00 pm | |
| Porygon2 with some lefties-over Ability: Trace Calm Nature 252 HP 6 Def 252 Sp Def Ice beam Discharge Recover Toxic In a perfect world, pory comes in, traces intimidate, and lives anything that salamence can throw at it before blowing it away with an ice beam. discharge gives good coverage and a good chance for some paralyzation on whatever comes in. recover helps it live, and toxic causes problems. EV's arent set in stone, and i dont do calcs because i dont wanna, so some EV's might have to be moved around | |
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Gren Draco
Number of posts : 11 Age : 31 Trainer Type : soo i herd u leik girafarigz? Friend Code D/P : 1234 5678 9112 Friend Code Platinum : 2119 8765 4321 My Pokemon Team : Warning : Registration date : 2009-07-31
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 01 Aug 2009, 5:43 pm | |
| Magnezone@Lefties -Magnetpull -Rash 6HP/252SpA/252Spe
-Metal Sound -Thunderbolt -Hidden Power (ice) -Explosion
Magnezone resists Bolt-Beam and isn't affected by Toxic. After Three Metal Sound OHKO's Porygon-2, so there is no long Recover stall war. Bolt Beam for coverage so it's harder to counter. Explosion so it blow stuff up. Ev's obviously could do with work, but i can't be bothered to see how much speed it need to outrun Metagross. | |
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TheThunderBringer
Number of posts : 21 Age : 30 Trainer Type : Not sure what to put >.> Friend Code D/P : 1934 4682 9377 Friend Code Platinum : N/A My Pokemon Team : Warning : Registration date : 2009-07-28
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sat 01 Aug 2009, 10:26 pm | |
| Gliscor @Yachi Berry -Hyper Cutter -Adament 252atk 100def 156spd -EQ -Rock Polish -Brick Break -Roost With the Yacchi berry, he should be able to take HP Ice, and land a quick EQ on Mag. Roost up some damage, and maybe use Rock Polish for some potential sweeping | |
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Brikien93 Admin
Number of posts : 427 Age : 31 Location : Grove, OK Trainer Type : Flygon trainer Friend Code D/P : 2492-5233-9338 Friend Code Platinum : Coming Soon My Pokemon Team : _______
Warning : Registration date : 2008-06-15
| Subject: Re: The Counter Game Sun 02 Aug 2009, 9:32 am | |
| Gyarados @ Leftovers Ability: Intimidate Adamant nature 252 HP, 228 Def, 30 Spe - Dragon Dance - Waterfall - Rest - Sleep Talk RestTalking gyara provides a great counter to your particular Gliscor set. Dragon Dance in your face turning you into some excellent setup fodder. As you slowly deplete my health with your brick breaks, I rest off the damage and sleep talk in hopes of either scoring an extra Ddance, or hitting you with waterfall. Once i've gotten the full setup, I simply attack you with waterfall to my hearts content. | |
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